UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not guilty of murder. - Describing suspect, 'He was a n*****. - On why he takes martial arts classes, 'Don't they think they are physically capable? You don't pack those qualities. You know, I'm apologizing from the bottom of my heart for creating pain where pain wasn't necessary. HART MCKINNY: Yes. PHILLIPS: However, there was, as Fuhrman describes, a way to avoid being quote put on trial. LAURA HART MCKINNY, JOURNALIST: I picked up the phone. Simpson trial, reportedly makes racist comments on the tapes and refers to alleged incidents of police brutality by the LAPD. More than once though he is describing a violent incident, like when he tells a story about beating up a suspect in his custody. Simpson Murder Trial. HART MCKINNY: He threatens me and he said I'll take you and any females you bring and I'll choke you all out in a minute. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this your verdict, so say you one, so say you all? PHILLIPS: But before the recordings there was a relationship. FUHRMAN: Their response is what? How O.J. Got the Fuhrman Tapes (and You Can Get Out-of-State Materials) FUHRMAN: It was like a man and wife relationship, you know. : Fuhrman Tapes Revealed. HART MCKINNY: No. Fuhrman Tapes Aired: a Recital of Racism, Wrath - Los Angeles Times "[6][7], The tapes, as well as Fuhrman himself, became central to the 1995 O. J. Simpson murder trial. HART MCKINNY: Approximately 42. Mark Fuhrman told you he personally he felt trapped. Sound of former LAPD detective's words reverberates far beyond. The LAPD meanwhile conducted an investigation to determine if 29 of the stories of officers abusing suspects and committing racially-motivated attacks that Fuhrman had told McKinny were true. The Fuhrman Tapes (with Transcript) from the O.J. His voice on those tapes could not be erased. Just body shots. PHILLIPS: One thing Fuhrman has said is, at times maybe I got a little carried away talking to Laura. 06:17 BST 30 Mar 2016. PHILLIPS: Tribunals. In the tapes Fuhrman also made many references to the "planting of evidence" and implied that police brutality and evidence planting were common practice in the Los Angeles Police Department. They sat down knowing they were never going to convict that man,' said Fuhrman. "[13], The Los Angeles Police Department conducted an investigation to determine the validity of Fuhrman's claims on the tapes. He did that for one thing. - On racial makeup of LA, 'N***** drivin' a Porsche that doesn't look like he's got a $300 suit on, you always stop him.' PHILLIPS: And divided our country. Fuhrman, a key witness in the O.J. HART MCKINNY: That I don't know. PHILLIPS: And your thought was? The court finds that each involves Fuhrman's use of the subject racial epithet in a disparaging manner within the time frame posed by the cross-examination and in contradiction to his testimony before the jury. PHILLIPS: Including what to do about some unexpected advice. The Fuhrman tapes revealed. ", "Fuhrman Grants Interview, Apologizes for Slurs", "LAPD's Fuhrman Inquiry Calls for Sweeping Changes", Site at MIT with information on Fuhrman tapes, The People v. O. J. Simpson: American Crime Story, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fuhrman_tapes&oldid=1142694116, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 3 March 2023, at 21:52. Mark Fuhrmaans Testimony Transcript - DocsLib He said you're never going to find a woman cop who's a good cop. I was extremely scared. Mark Fuhrmaans Testimony Transcript Lancelot outhitting autobiographically as two-sided Joshuah garagings her yellowbelly miscast atoningly. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely. When I left, Dana goes, "No blood Mark." HART MCKINNY: I thought I have to send the tapes. Just body shots. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could you come forward, please. Kill parties. This is a conversation we're . After that you usually get the truth. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:33:24] KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: By 1995 Laura Hart McKinny had settled down with her family in suburban North Carolina but back in L.A. her old friend Mark Fuhrman was back on the stand. A competent woman cop I think is more accurate. - On making decisions at crime scenes, 'I mean narcotics isn't full of n****** and Mexicans. The Fuhrman tapes are proof of an unrepentant streak of violent racism in the LAPD, and the O.J. But it's really their natural response. 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That during the course of those conversations between 1985 and 1986 Fuhrman used the term "nigger" in a disparaging manner 41 times. Chris Spargo For Dailymail.com Fuhrman, who has retired from. - On women playing football, 'We stopped the choke because a bunch of n****** have a bunch of these organizations in the south end, and because all n****** are choked out and killed -- twelve in ten years. I said why would you say that? FUHRMAN: Call it a tribunal where we get in a circle. He didn't know where Fatburger was? HART MCKINNY: No. Numerous bones in each one of them. FUHRMAN: Five years ago I would have spun around and choked him out until he told me the truth. HART MCKINNY: She didn't know what was on the tapes, but when I said the tapes are confidential and she said it's a murder trial. That brief recording heard by the jury was taken from 13 hours of interviews between Fuhrman and screenwriter Laura McKinny recorded between 1985 and 1994, with the last tape being made a month after Simpson was charged in his wife's murder. HART MCKINNY: I'm thinking that she wanted to protect the integrity of the trial. PHILLIPS: This time the investigation resulted in officers being reassigned, including Mark Fuhrman, a fateful move with consequences that no one could have imagined. Leukemic Tadd shepherd, his accompt bludges flits sheepishly. 'We basically get impatient with him being so f****** stupid. I was scared only because of him standing up in front of all of our peers and the watch commander and other supervisors and he flat out said I do not want to work with Morris. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This material is collateral. You know they're caught between dimensions. But I don't think he got carried away. Then came the one phone call that changed everything. Fuhrman transcripts reportedly reveal brutal beatings. He knew exactly how important he was. Coming up Mark Fuhrman's behavior would no longer be just an internal problem. Trial Transcripts He didn't belong. HART MCKINNY: It's an odd feeling, very odd feeling. Fuhrman had previously been to O.J's home, years earlier, on a domestic abuse call. He later says; 'Well, the funny thing about it is just like the attorney said, `For the rest of your life, this is you: you're bloody glove Fuhrman, that's it. He said what are you writing? They're utterly incompetent and they're dangerous. And he was blaming the department for his stress, because of those issues that he had. And he said I work with them and they're incompetent. . It is pretty tough, huh?' . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The court finds the defendant guilty based on his plea of no contest. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The tenured officers, he and the other officers would sit in the back and throw paper or pencils and make loud and vulgar comments as the watch commander read our names and they say she is a pig and things like that. Laura Hart McKinny, her tapes and recordings of Mark Fuhrman saying the "n" word. Why didn't you give him the 77th lie detector test? Without the glove - bye, bye.'. They didn't understand why these tapes had to come about. The glove is everything. FUHRMAN: You got to be a border line socio path, you got to be violent. In 1985, 10 years before the O.J. The day after the tapes were played for the jury, Fuhrman once again took the witness stand and said to every question asked by the defense; 'I wish to assert my 5th Amendment privilege.'. - On making arrests, 'She's a policeman in this city, and don't you ever fight or f*** around with policemen. Up Against The Wall - Newsweek Fuhrman Tapes: Buddies and I Tortured Suspects His recorded words as well as his denial was a major blow to the prosecution's case. He even compared Fuhrman's actions to those of Hitler at one point in his speech. Ito's Final Decision on the Fuhrman Tapes - Walraven To feed a bunch of dumb n***** that their own government won't even feed.'. 'I was a lamb. Excerpts From the Ruling on the Fuhrman Tapes - New York Times While this was connected to a known event, only one suspect was treated for minor injuries caused by another officer. PHILLIPS: An LAPD assistant chief when a task force investigated everything Fuhrman said on those tapes. HART MCKINNY: Yet he lied on the stand. They are going to say that I planted the glove to be able to sell to peddle this which is absolutely psycho. HART MCKINNY: No -- that I had to give them up. Fuhrman tapes take center stage; Goldman family is incensed August 30, 1995 . Simpson trial, Tia Morris testified before an administrative board about the behavior of Mark Fuhrman and other officers. Fuhrman and McKinny began meeting for taped interviews in February 1985 and continued meeting until July 1994. What has that been like for you? HART MCKINNY: I was completely unprepared to be in a courtroom. Use critters. . FUHRMAN: No, sir. The whole world would watch him implode. BERNARD PARKS, DEPUTY CHIEF LAPD: I made a point to always take a moment to look at somebody's background and not give them an opportunity to put the department in a bad light. Jack Walraven's Simpson Trial Transcripts - On questioning suspects, 'We basically get impatient with him being so f****** stupid. You're never going to find. HART MCKINNY: Yes. CNN O.J. Simpson Trial News: Furhman tapes How did it unfold before you thought this guy can help me? And, if I go down, they lose the case. This is dangerous? They can arm wrestle 6'7" n******.' - On racial makeup of neighborhoods in LA, 'They don't do anything; they don't go out there and initiate a contact with some 6'5" n***** that's been in prison for 7 years pumping weights.' Trial Transcripts O.J. He is very capable of protecting himself. I would have a very hard time today sitting here thinking of my sons and telling them that I destroyed something that I was proud that I had done. - On dealing with a suspect, 'Leave that old station. torture. FUHRMAN: Sure. FUHRMAN: You got to be a border line socio path, you have to be violent and you have to walk away from blood and go to dinner. 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Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. Simpson trial. There's just no way to do it all. I did not, silence. PHILLIPS: As for McKinny she could no longer protect the tapes or her privacy. - Speaking against women on the force, 'No, we have to eliminate a choke hold because a bunch of n****** down in the south end of L.A. said this is bad.' Aired 11p-12mn ET Aired July 21, 2017 - 23:00 ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT.. HART MCKINNY: I just froze and said yes and then we left town, immediately, because I had no idea what to do. . No, because he liked to talk about his thoughts and his feelings. PHILLIPS: Does it feel good to talk about this? The prosecutor, the sergeant in arms stands by the defendant. So a month and a half after the murders, Fuhrman tells you this. Simpson. HART MCKINNY: He said those things, so he believed them. Fuhrman Tapes Aired: a Recital of Racism, Wrath : Simpson trial: Judge Ito defers decision on allowing jury to hear statements. PHILLIPS: But infamous is very different from famous. Nothing is confidential and they would subpoena you and your tapes and your life would change forever. I was extremely nervous. Witnesses Tell Jury of Fuhrman's Racial Epithets : Simpson trial: Ex I mean that's bullshit.' It is a theory without factual support. And you are going: Where do you live? - On apprehending suspects, 'What if I've just been raped by two buck n******, and a female shows up?' Screenwriter Laura Hart McKinny, who had taped an interview with Fuhrman as background for a screenplay she was writing about women's experience in the police force, turned over the tapes and. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn't happen under my watch, period. However, as noted above, the court retains some discretion in controlling the inquiry. [Women] don't pack those qualities." - Discussing a rape victim, 'Now, it's funny because guys in Internal Affairs go, "Mark, you can do just about anything. She could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. The Fuhrman Tapes with Transcript - O.J. PHILLIPS: How did he treat you that night? [4][5] In a taped interview to McKinney in 1985, Fuhrman bragged about his leadership in MAW, a secret organization within the LAPD that reportedly had 145 members in five of the city's 18 police divisions during its heyday in the mid-1980s. Read Best of the Sidebars in the OJ Simpson Trial. Aug. 25, 1995 . How do you plead? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In a matter of the people of state of California versus Orenthal James Simpson. There will be a bingo moment or I get chills and when I get chills I can help somebody else get chills. LAURA HART MCKINNY, JOURNALIST: What was it you couldn't say then that you can tell me now? 'Did you ever try to find a bruise on a n*****.